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		<title>Remove the lock from a previous shared folder via Homegroup</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrei Ungureanu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Homegroup in Windows 7 este una dintre cele mai utile functionalitati pentru enduseri. Insa mai are si cateva bug-uri, care sper sa fie rezolvate in primul service pack. De exemplu orice folder ca a fost sharuit prin Homegroup, chiar dupa dezactivarea share-ului si parasirea homegroup-ului o sa arata ca in poza de mai sus – [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homegroup in Windows 7 este una dintre cele mai utile functionalitati pentru enduseri. Insa mai are si cateva bug-uri, care sper sa fie rezolvate in primul service pack.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/lock.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="lock" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/lock_thumb.jpg" width="244" height="65" /></a></p>
<p>De exemplu orice folder ca a fost sharuit prin Homegroup, chiar dupa dezactivarea share-ului si parasirea homegroup-ului o sa arata ca in poza de mai sus – cu un lacatel atasat.</p>
<p>Asta se intampla pentru ca sunt modificate permisiunile NTFS pe folder:</p>
<p>&#160;<a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="perm" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm_thumb.jpg" width="381" height="491" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm1.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="perm1" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm1_thumb.jpg" width="637" height="485" /></a></p>
<p>Observati lipsa grupului Users din ACL-ul de mai sus. Putem restaura permisiunile prin selectarea checkbox-ului <strong>Include inheritable permissions from this object’s parent</strong>.</p>
<p>&#160;<a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm2.jpg"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="perm2" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/perm2_thumb.jpg" width="639" height="484" /></a></p>
<p>Rezultatul o sa arate cam asa:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/image5.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/image_thumb5.png" width="382" height="370" /></a></p>
<p>Si imediat dupa, folderul o sa arate normal.</p>
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		<title>More about Windows 7 Homegroups</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrei Ungureanu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; In articolul anterior am discutat despre cum setam un homegroup. Acum sa discutam despre cateva detalii ale acestui feature. First of all, trebuie retinut ca Network Location-ul pentru adaptorul de retea trebuie sa fie Home Network. Altfel nu va merge. La fel trebuie retinut ca se comporta “ciudat” atunci cand sunt mai multe adaptoare [...]]]></description>
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<p>In <a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/2010/02/01/forget-about-workgroup-we-have-homegroup-in-windows-7/" target="_blank">articolul anterior</a> am discutat despre cum setam un homegroup. Acum sa discutam despre cateva detalii ale acestui feature.</p>
<p>First of all, trebuie retinut ca Network Location-ul pentru adaptorul de retea trebuie sa fie Home Network. Altfel nu va merge. La fel trebuie retinut ca se comporta “ciudat” atunci cand sunt mai multe adaptoare de retea pe sistem (multihomed), chiar si VMWare.</p>
<p>Second, un calculator care este membru in domeniu nu va putea crea un homegroup. Va putea joina un homegroup si accesa resursele partajate dar nu va putea partaja resurse. Microsoft s-a gandit ca nu ar fi bine ca cineva sa se duca acasa cu sistemul de la lucru si acolo sa-si partajeze informatiile. Personal mi se parea mai bine daca lasau la alegerea administratorului. Daca user-ul vrea tot o sa o faca pana la urma.</p>
<p>Urmatoarele setari din Group Policy permit dezactivarea accesului la un homegroup:</p>
<p><strong>Computer Configuration\Policies\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\HomeGroup\</strong><strong>Prevent the computer from joining a homegroup</strong></p>
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<p>Ce am mai descoperit: exista un grup folosit de acest feature numit Homeusers.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image66.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb58.png" width="644" height="326" /></a></p>
<p>Cand joinam un sistem sau cand cream un homegroup, automat o sa avem un user in plus pe sistem numit HomeGroupUser$. Acest user va fi folosit pentru accesul pe sisteme remote si banuiesc ca va avea parola pe care o partajam (sau macar ceva derivat de la acea parola). Il vom intalni in permisiunile NTFS de pe resursele partajate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image67.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb59.png" width="417" height="464" /></a></p>
<p>Acum partea interesanta. Nu conteaza ce sistem a initiat homegroup-ul, atata timp cat mai exista inca un sistem membru el exista. Insa in momentul in care pleci din workgroup, grupul local Homeusers si userul HomeGroupUser$ sunt stersi, iar ACL-urile pe resurse raman. Ceva de genul:</p>
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<p>Voi sti ce a fost partajat pentru ca fiecare folder va avea un lacatel in dreptul lui.</p>
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<p>Inca ceva. Totul depinde de doua servicii Homegroup Listener si HomeGroup Provider.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image70.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb62.png" width="453" height="48" /></a></p>
<p>Daca sunt oprite, optiune de homegreoup nu va aparea nici macar in Explorer.</p>
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<p>Si cam atat pentru astazi. Daca mai aveti informatii despre acest topic nu ezitati sa le postati.</p>
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		<title>Forget about Workgroup. We have Homegroup in Windows 7</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andrei Ungureanu</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; Homegroup-ul&#160; reprezinta probabil una din cele mai utile feature-uri din Windows 7 destinate home user-ilor. Dupa ani si ani si multe versiuni de Windows in sfarsit s-au gandit sa faca ceva sa imbunatateasca modul in care sunt partajate resursele intr-o retea de tip home. Si asa a aparut homegroup-ul, un model de sharing in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Homegroup-ul&#160; reprezinta probabil una din cele mai utile feature-uri din Windows 7 destinate home user-ilor. Dupa ani si ani si multe versiuni de Windows in sfarsit s-au gandit sa faca ceva sa imbunatateasca modul in care sunt partajate resursele intr-o retea de tip home.</p>
<p>Si asa a aparut homegroup-ul, un model de sharing in care nu mai folosesti user/pass sa te conectezi la resurse ci doar o parola pentru a joina la acel homegroup. Membrii homegroup-ului pot partaja resursele transparent fara a mai fi nevoie de alta autentificare.</p>
<p>Mai jos o sa prezint in imagini cum se configureaza si cum puteti partaja informatii in cadrul unui homegroup.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>Setam homegroup-ul din Network and Sharing Center.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image56.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb48.png" width="644" height="484" /></a> </p>
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<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image57.png"><img style="border-right-width: 0px;border-top-width: 0px;border-bottom-width: 0px;border-left-width: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb49.png" width="604" height="484" /></a> </p>
<p> Personal nu imi place sa aleaga Windows-ul ce sa sharuiasca pentru mine, asa ca nu selectez nimic acum.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
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<p>O sa aveti nevoie de parola de mai jos pentru a va conecta cu alte sisteme la homegroup. Parola poate fi vazuta si mai tarziu, sau chiar schimbata in cazul in care securitatea homegroup-ului este compromisa.</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image59.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb51.png" width="631" height="462" /></a> </p>
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<p>Acum ca am setat homegroup-ul ne ducem pe al doilea calculator si incercam sa joinam la acest homegroup. O facem tot din Network and Sharing Center.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image61.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb53.png" width="629" height="461" /></a> </p>
<p>Si cam asta e tot.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image62.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb54.png" width="631" height="463" /></a> </p>
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<p>Iata si cum partajam informatia in cadrul unui homegroup:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image63.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb55.png" width="639" height="218" /></a> </p>
<p>Daca folderul a fost partajat atunci vom observa informatia urmatoare in partea de jos a ferestrei Explorer.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image64.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb56.png" width="454" height="100" /></a> </p>
<p>De pe celelalt sistem accesam share-ul accesand optiunea Homegroup care apare in partea stanga in explorer.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image65.png"><img style="border-bottom: 0px;border-left: 0px;border-top: 0px;border-right: 0px" border="0" alt="image" src="http://www.winadmin.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/image_thumb57.png" width="644" height="413" /></a> </p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>In lista sistemelor din homegroup vor aparea numai cele care au ceva partajat. Daca doar le-ati introdus in homegroup fara a si partaja ceva, nu vor aparea.</p>
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<p>Voi continua intr-un articol urmator si cu alte detalii despre acest feature. Stay tuned!</p>
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